The sound designer and composer – and one half of the Ringham brothers – tells Fergus Morgan about moments that have made up his theatre career, including working with immersive company Shunt, with the Jamie Lloyd Company and on new musical Black Love
It is rare for Ben Ringham to do an interview by himself. Usually, he does them alongside his older brother Max. The two of them come as a pair, having worked together as sound designers and composers on hundreds of performance projects over the past two decades. Today, though, Max is abroad, so Ben is flying solo.
“Max is doing tech on a project in Amsterdam, and I am doing tech on a show in Colchester,” Ringham says. “That is normally how it works. We work on every project together, writing music and doing the sound design, and we do interviews together, but only one of us will go into the room with the director for each show.
“We worked out that was the best way of doing things quite quickly after we started,” he continues. “Directors don’t know who to talk to if we are both in the room. This way, we both get to flex our individual creative muscles and we don’t argue in front of other people. It does lead to that constant joke that there is actually only one of us, though.”
Ringham was born in 1975, four years after his brother. Their father John was a well-known actor, but his sons’ first foray into the arts was through DJing and dance music. They were roped into collaborating with immersive theatre collective Shunt by their sister Hannah in the early 2000s.
One thing led to another and they have now composed scores and designed sound at all of the country’s biggest venues, chalking up nearly 200 shows in 20 years, from Henry IV and Anna at London’s National Theatre to Quiz and Cyrano De Bergerac in the West End, to Betrayal on Broadway.
“Our house was very noisy,” Ringham says. “My dad played music constantly and it was always a battle to get on to the piano. I remember Max bought a synthesiser when I was quite young, and I desperately wanted to play with that instead of my Star Wars toys. We are still obsessed with synthesisers. I think we have about 45 in our studio in Finsbury Park.”
One of my first memories is going to see my dad play Long John Silver in Treasure Island. I had no concept of theatre. I just thought lots of people were trying to kill my dad, so I started screaming and ran on stage to stop them. An usher took me outside and gave me some Smarties, so my love of theatre comes from my love of Smarties, really.
I have to say Prince, partly because he is my biggest inspiration and partly because it will annoy Max. I’m listening to a lot of Louis Cole at the moment. Oh, and I’m listening to The Haxan Cloak, too, which is basically just horrific, ambient noises.
I’d like to see more design-led work. There are some incredibly creative people in this industry, who don’t get a chance to create. I’d like to see that change. I’d like to see more video-led work. I’d like to see a lighting-led concept. We have had the chance to do some sound-led work, like Anna at the National Theatre, but we’d love to do more.
The very first theatre show we did after Shunt was Henry IV in the Olivier, and we had absolutely no idea what we were doing. We’ve definitely made a lot of mistakes since, but we did get a lot of them out of the way on that first job.
It’s always quite a long list. I am doing the tech for Blackmail at the Mercury Theatre in Colchester. It’s a new Mark Ravenhill adaptation of the 1928 play by Charles Bennett that was made into a film by Alfred Hitchcock. Max is in Amsterdam doing the international tour of Blindness, which is the headphone piece we made with Simon Stephens for the Donmar Warehouse last year.
Then we wrote the songs for Chinonyerem Odimba’s musical Black Love, which opens at London’s Kiln later this month, too. Then Gulliver’s Travels is running at the Unicorn in London, and Persuasion is running at the Rose Theatre Kingston, and Jamie Lloyd’s Cyrano De Bergerac with James McAvoy is going up to Glasgow, then to New York.
Max and I are finishing off the script for a BBC Radio 4 series we are doing, as well. It’s called Exemplar and it is about a forensic audiologist who uses sound to work out why things happen. We originally thought it was just going to be a one-off drama, but they liked it enough to turn it into a whole series, which will be broadcast this summer.
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